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THE PERFECT FIT

Bike Sizing
Adjusting The New Bike So It Fits
Shoe Sizes
Men's Clothing Size
Women's Clothing Size
Sports Bra Size


One 5' 10" (177cm) rider buys a 16" (40cm) mountain bike frame, the next goes for a 22" (56cm). Both riders selected the correct size for their needs. The first rider was looking for maximum top-tube clearance for mountain bike downhill dual-slalom riding, the latter wanted a bike that allowed him to sit as upright as possible. (While seatposts are adjustable by around 300mm, there is very little, if any, up/down handlebar adjustment these days. If you want to ride upright, the bigger frame usually makes sense.) Clearly then, within common sense restraints (the 6' / 182cm-tall rider won't get far on a 20" / 51cm-wheeled kids' bike) personal preference is at least as important as any manufacturer's suggested sizing guidelines.

Frame Sizing Guide
  1. When you straddle the bicycle frame with your feet flat on the ground, as illustrated here, you should be able to clear the top tube (crossbar).
  2. If you like to sit upright, go for the biggest frame that still allows top tube clearance.
  3. If you prefer more athletic riding, particularly mountain biking over rough terrain, you are safest with maximum clearance, so plump for the smallest possible frame - as long as you can still stretch your legs and the bike isn't so short that it cramps your riding style.
  4. Although every manufacturer has their own sizing quirks, a bike's frame size is based on the length of the seat tube (the tube that the seatpost goes into).
  5. You can get a rough idea of the size of frame you require if you measure your inside leg - crotch to floor - then subtract 9" / 23cm or 10" / 25cm for a road bike (or a mountain bike used as a road bike) or 12" / 30cm for an athletically-ridden mountain bike. Hence a rider with a 32" / 81cm inside leg who owns a 23" / 58cm road bike usually requires a 20" / 51cm mountain bike.
  6. The development of compact frames with sloping top tubes and long seatposts has further blurred the sizing issue. I'm unfeasibly tall (6' 8" / 203cm) so frame-builders would once recommend a minimum road bike frame size of 27" (68.5cm). I now comfortably ride a 21" / 53cm Specialized Expedition.

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Top Tube Clearance Guidelines

mountain bike

3" - 5" /
7 - 13cm

racing bike

2" - 4"
5 - 10cm

hybrid bike

0.5" - 3"
1 - 8cm

touring bike

1" - 2.5"
2 - 6cm

 
'Ladies' Bikes

The traditional woman's bicycle with a step-through frame makes our foolproof Frame Sizing Guide a tad invalid. Straddling a guy's frame can give a fair indication of the size of woman's bike required. Better still, visit an Edinburgh Bicycle Co-op shop and we will guarantee a perfect fit.


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Once You Have The Bike
Making it fit
Spending a little time adjusting the saddle and bars to fit your unique body shape can transform a bicycle from an instrument of torture into a vehicle of blissful comfort.

There are no iron rules re fitting your bicycle to your body but here are a few pointers based on our collective experience of more than a hundred years riding and selling bikes.


Saddle Height

  1. Many new or returnee bicyclists set the seat low enough so they can get both feet flat on the ground while sitting on the saddle. Although this might seem logical, cycling with the saddle this low inhibits your leg power and stresses the knees. The result - riding takes 10 times more effort than needs be.

  2. Your saddle should be high enough so that your leg almost (but not quite) fully extends at the bottom of each pedal stroke. Riding with the saddle this high allows you to spin the pedal more comfortably and efficiently. To check for correct leg extension, position the right hand pedal crank at its furthest extension - i.e. in line with the frame's seat tube (the tube that the seatpost goes into) so the lower pedal is at 5 o'clock. Wearing your normal cycling shoes, your heel should be able to touch this pedal with your leg straight but not locked out. That way, when you position your feet in the classically correct position, with the balls of the feet over the pedal spindle, your knee will be slightly bent.

  3. You can raise or lower the saddle height by loosening the seat binder bolt and moving the seatpost up or down. Be careful not to raise the seatpost above the minimum insertion mark etched on the seatpost. If you need your saddle higher than the post allows, get a longer seatpost. Be aware that seatposts come in different diameters - anything from 24 to 32mm in 0.2mm steps - so check the diameter before ordering one, or bring the old seatpost along to the shop so we can measure it with the vernier callipers.

  4. If you are new or just returning to bicycling, a correctly-positioned saddle feels a long way off the ground - especially when you stop. Don’t worry, you’ll soon learn to balance with your strongest foot perched on one pedal, and the other on tiptoes on the ground. This balancing act quickly becomes second nature to almost every cyclist. If this position feels precariously high, by all means start off with the saddle an inch lower till you gain confidence on your new bike. Just remember that it’s fatiguing to ride with a saddle too low, so as soon as you get the hang of your new bike, raise that saddle. Your knees will be grateful.

  5. Remember to secure the seat binder bolt or quick release after adjusting the saddle height.


Saddle Tilt

  1. Most people get on best with a saddle that's dead level. With all its anatomic bumps and depressions, it's hard to tell if a saddle is on the level. The easiest way to check is to place a flat edge, such as a large hardback book, on top of the saddle. It's then easy to determine if the saddle is parallel with the ground.

  2. If the seatpost is micro-adjustable, loosen off the Allen bolt at the top of the post (directly under the saddle). You can now tilt the saddle up or down.

  3. If it's an old-style plain (not Allen bolted) seatpost, you loosen the saddle by undoing the nuts which tighten the saddle clip to the seatpost.

  4. As with all these adjustments, personal preferences come into play. Some riders find a dead level position causes saddle pressure, so they prefer to tilt the saddle up or down by 1 or 2¾.

  5. Remember to secure the seatpin Allen bolt or saddle clip nuts once you've achieved the desired saddle tilt.


Saddle Fore/Aft

Loosening the saddle, as described in the Saddle Tilt section, also allows you to shift the saddle further forward or back - useful if you want to shorten or lengthen your reach to the handlebars. Shifting the saddle fore and aft also influences pedalling efficiency. Here's the most frequently recommended guideline for positioning the saddle.

  1. Sit on the bike and spin the cranks round so they're horizontal.

  2. Place your right foot on the 3 o'clock pedal with the widest part of the foot over the axle.

  3. The kneecap (or more precisely, the small boney bump immediately below the kneecap) should be directly over the pedal axle. Some riders get a friend to drop a plumb line from said boney bump to the pedal to check this.

  4. Adjust the saddle back and forward till you achieve this position.

  5. Obviously, moving the saddle back to position the knee correctly over the pedal, simultaneously positions the handlebars further away from the saddle. As ever, experiment till you find the best compromise.


Saddle Fore/Aft Variations

As we said at the beginning, achieving a perfect bike fit is as personal as your taste in clothes. One cyclist rides in figure-hugging Lycra, the next prefers baggy. They're both right.

Same with saddle adjustment. While most experienced riders swear by the 'front of the knee over the pedal axle' theory, some very smart cycling experts such as framebuilder Keith Bontrager differ. They argue that riding with the saddle further back, so the knee cap is behind the pedal axle, is more efficient - especially when climbing.

Similarly, while it's received wisdom that you should always ride with the widest part of the foot centered on the pedal (the balls of the foot over the pedal axle theory), some riders differ, arguing that continual pressure on the same part of the foot can be a pain, especially on longer rides. Although it flies against convention, moving the feet slightly forward takes the pressure off. This must be worth trying if your sole's in pain, as blues singers might yell. After all, it's received wisdom that it's good to change your hand position on drop bars, aero bars or bar ends. A change in foot position might offer similarly benefits of resting and exercising different muscles and tendons.

Obviously if you ride with toeclips or step-in (AKA clipless) pedals, you won't be able to change your foot position. That's another reason why dual pedals (normal cage one side, SPD the other) might offer the best of all worlds.

To summarise, we mention Saddle Fore/Aft Variations to underline the fact that there are no iron rules. We would still recommend you start off with the classical riding position - front kneecap at 3 o'clock over the pedal axle; widest part of the foot over the pedal axle. You will probably find, like millions of cyclists over the past century, that it serves you fine.

Just keep an open mind. Listen to your body and don't be afraid to experiment.

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Handlebar Height

Again, handlebar height is down to personal preference. Low bars are more sporty and promote a fast aerodynamic riding style. Flexible young riders (and flexible old yoga masters) usually prefer low bars. If you prefer a more sedate riding style with minimal neck, wrist and back strain, you'll probably want higher bars. A good place to start is with the bars the same height as the saddle. If you prefer a more athletic 'head down' position, lower the bars. If you prefer a 'head up' riding position raise the bars.

To raise the bar, you actually raise the handlebar stem. There are 2 types of stem: quill and Ahead.


Quill Stem

A quill stem is inserted into the front fork’s steerer tube.

  1. To raise or lower the bars, loosen the stem Allen bolt 2 whole turns anticlockwise with a 6mm Allen Key. The handlebar/stem assembly should now move up and down freely. If it doesn’t, give the stem bolt a light tap with a mallet. This will release the stem’s expander wedge, and the bars will now move freely.
  2. If you're raising the bar, please note that the stem has a line etched on it. This is the minimum insertion mark. For your safety, this mark should not be visible. In other words, the minimum insertion mark must be inside the fork steerer, out of sight .
  3. Once the bars are the right height, check the stem is still in line with the front wheel. Then secure the stem bolt very tightly.
  4. If you need a longer or higher stem, you will need to know the diameter of the quill (the part that's inserted into the fork steerer).

 

An Aheadstem is clamped over the front fork’s steerer tube. It's not safe to raise an Aheadstem unless it's an adjustable-rise Aheadstem. However, a great new widget called the Delta Aheadset Raiser allows you to raise the bars 50mm. Alternatively, you can fit a higher Aheadstem. While it's a drag to be obliged to buy a new stem, especially for a new bike, it's not unusual. In the pursuit of the holy grail of perfect fit, of the 10 or so bikes I've ever owned, only one retained its original stem.

You can, however, lower the bars by flipping the Aheadstem so it points down rather than up (or up rather than down in the odd instance of the bike being supplied with the Aheadstem pointing down). Flipping the stem involves removing the bars, removing the Aheadstem's top cap, loosening the Aheadstem's side bolts, flipping the stem, replacing the bars, refitting the top cap and adjusting the bearing.

Flipping an Aheadstem is not rocket science, but perhaps should not be attempted by the mechanically unconfident. Here's how its done.



Aheadstem

  1. Remove the bars by undoing the clamp at the front of the Aheadstem.
  2. Remove the stems' top cap (2) by undoing the 5mm Allen bolt.
  3. Loosen the 2 Allen bolts (1) at the side of the stem with a 5mm Allen Key.
  4. Careful now. These stem bolts hold the whole fork & wheel assembly in place. To prevent the fork falling out, wrap a toestrap or string round the fork crown and down tube.
  5. Flip the stem over and replace the top cap.
  6. Snug the top cap bolt BUT NOT TIGHTLY. This bolt determines the Aheadset bearing adjustment.
  7. Snug the 2 side Allen bolts BUT NOT TIGHTLY.
  8. Refit the handlebars.
  9. Check the stem is in line with the front wheel, then tighten the 2 side Allen bolts.
  10. Check the Aheadset adjustment. Do the handlebars turn freely?
  11. Rock the stationary bike backwards and forwards while squeezing the front brake. You should feel no play.
  12. To fine tune this bearing adjustment, loosen off the 2 stem bolts again. Then loosen or tighten the top cap bolt with the 5mm Allen key. Please note that this is a very fine adjustment - 1/16 of a turn might be all that’s required to free up the bearing or remove a little play.
  13. As with any bearing adjustment, if you don’t get it right first time, repeat step 11 until you achieve optimal adjustment.

Flipping the Aheadstem makes it significantly lower. If you just want to lower the bars slightly, this can often be achieved by removing the spacer(s) frequently fitted below the Aheadstem, then cutting down the fork steerer by exactly the width of the removed spacer(s) (use any remaining spacer as a cutting guide). Bear in mind that cutting a fork steerer is an irreversible act than might best be left to the bike shop.

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Shoe Size

Euro

36

37

38

39

40

41

42

43

44

45

46

47

48

UK

3.5

4

5

6

6.5

7

8

9

10

10.5

11

12

13


As a rule, Specialized and Carnac shoe sizes are spot on while Shimano shoe sizes are on the small side. If you're normally a 42, order size 42 Specialized shoes and size 43 Shimano shoes.

Sports Bras

S

M

L

XL

XXL

Bust

32-34" / 81-86cm

34-36" / 86-91.5cm

36-38" / 91.5-96.5cm

38-40" / 96.5-101.5cm

40-42" / 101.5-106.5cm

Cup Size

A-B

B-C

C-D

D-DD

DD-E

 

Altura clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

XXL

Chest

36-37"
91.5-94cm

38-39"
96.5-99cm

40-42"
101.5-106.5cm

43-44"
109-112cm

45-46"
114.5-117cm

Waist

25-28"
63.5-71cm

28-31"
71-78.5cm

32-34"
81.5-86.5cm

35-37"
89-94cm

38-40"
96.5-101.5cm

WOMEN

S

M

L

XL

XXL

UK Size

8

10

12

14

16

 

Assos clothing

ASSOS apparel is cut anatomically without restricting movement in the tuck position.
Bibs might therefore pull when standing upright - this is normal.

MEN

S

M

L

XL

XLG

TIR

Chest

37.8"
96cm

39.4"
100cm

40.2"
102cm

43.3"
110cm

45.7"
116cm

46.5"
118cm

Height
(Shorts)

5'2"-5'4"
160-167cm

5'5"-5'8"
169-177cm

5'9"-6'0"
179-184cm

6'1"-6'2"
187-192cm

6'3"-6'4"+
194-197cm+

same as XLG but wider

 

Cannondale clothing

MEN

S

M

L

X

XX

XXX

Chest

36-38"
91.4-96.5cm

39-42"
99-106.6cm

43-45"
109.2-114.3cm

46-48"
116.8-121.9cm

49-51"
124.4-129.5cm

52-55"
132-139.7cm

Waist

28-30"
71.1-76.2cm

31-33"
78.7-83.8cm

34-36"
86.4-91.4cm

37-39"
94-99.1cm

40-41"
101.6-104.1cm

52-55"
106.7-109.2cm

WOMEN

P (4)

S (6-8)

M (8-10)

L (10-12)

X (12-14)

Chest

33-34"
83.8-86.4cm

35-36"
88.9-91.4cm

37-38"
94-96.5cm

39-40"
99.1-101.6cm

41-42"
104.1-106.7cm

Waist

26-27"
66-68.6cm

28-29"
71.1-73.6cm

30-31"
76.2-78.7cm

32-33"
81.2-83.8cm

34-35"
86.3-88.9cm

Hip

36-37"
86.4-91.4cm

38-39"
94-99.1cm

40-41"
101.6-106.7cm

42-43"
109.2-114.3cm

44-45"
116.9-121.9cm

KIDS

S (4-5)

M (6-7)

L (8-9)

XL (10-11)

Chest

24-26"
61-66cm

27-29"
68.6-73.7cm

30-32"
76.2-81.3cm

33-35"
83.8-88.9cm

Waist

22-23"
55.9-58.4cm

23-24"
58.4-61cm

24-25"
61-63.5cm

25-26"
63.5-66cm

 

Dainese protective clothing

SIZES

JS

JM

JL

XS

S M L XL

XXL

Waist

23.6"
60cm

25.6"
65cm

28.7"
73cm

29.9"
76cm

32.3"
82cm
34.7"
88cm
37"
94cm
39.4"
100cm

41.7"
106cm

 

Edinburgh Bicycle & Revolution clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

Chest

36-38"
91.5-96.5cm

39-42"
99-106.5

43-45"
109-114.5cm

46-48"
117-122cm

Waist

25-27"
63.5-68.5cm

28-30"
71-76cm

31-33"
78.5-84cm

34-36"
86.5-91.5cm

WOMEN

S

M

L

XL

UK Size

8-10

10-12

12-14

14-16

KIDS

S

M

L

Age

4-6

6-8

9-11

Height

42.5"
110cm

47.5"
122cm

55"
140cm


Endura clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

Chest

36-38"
91.5-96.5cm

39-42"
99-106.5

43-45"
109-114.5cm

46-48"
117-122cm

Waist

25-27"
63.5-68.5cm

28-30"
71-76cm

31-33"
78.5-84cm

34-36"
86.5-91.5cm

WOMEN

S

M

L

XL

UK Size

8-10

10-12

12-14

14-16

 

Fox clothing

MEN

XS

S

M

L

XL XXL

XXXL

Chest

32-33"
81.5-84cm

34-35"
86.5-89cm

36-38"
91.5-96.5cm

40-42"
101.6-106.5cm

44-46"
112-117cm
48-50"
122-127cm

52-54"
132-137cm

Waist

26-28"
66-71cm

28-30"
71-76cm

31-33"
78.5-84cm

34-36"
86.5-91.5cm

38-40"
96.5-101.6cm
42-44"
106.5-112cm

46-48"
117-122cm

KIDS

KXS

KS

KM

KL

KXL

Chest

22"
56cm

24"
61cm

26.5"
67.5cm

29"
73.5cm

31.5"
80cm

Waist

21"
53.5cm

22"
56cm

24"
61cm

26"
66cm

28"
71cm

Height 3'4"
101.5cm
3'9"
114.5cm
4'2"
127cm
4'7"
139.5cm
5'0"
152.5cm

 

Freestyle clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

Chest

32"
81.5cm

38"
96.5cm

41"
104cm

44"
112cm

Inside Leg

30"
76cm

31.5"
80cm

33"
84cm

34.5"
87.5cm

WOMEN

S

M

L

XL

Bust

33"
84cm

36"
91.5cm

39"
99cm

42"
106.5cm


Gore clothing

MEN

S (42/44)

M (46/48)

L (50/52)

XL (54/56)

XXL (58/60)

XXL/ (62/64)

Chest

35.4"
90cm

37"
94cm

40.2"
102cm

43.3"
110cm

46.5"
118cm

48"
122cm

Waist 31.5"
80cm

33.1"
84cm

36.2"
92cm

39.4"
100cm

42.5"
108cm

45.7"
116cm

WOMEN

XS (34)

S (36)

M (38)

L (40) XL (42)

XXL (44)

Chest

31.5"
80cm

33.1"
84cm

34.7"
88cm

36.2"
92cm

37.8"
96cm

39.4"
100cm

Waist

25.2"
64cm

26.8"
68cm

28.4"
72cm

29.9"
76cm

31.5"
80cm

33.1"
84cm

Hip 35"
89cm
36.6"
93cm
38.2"
97cm
39.8"
101cm
41.3"
105cm
42.9"
109cm

 

Helly Hansen clothing

MEN

XS

S

M

L

XL

XXL

Chest

35"
88cm

36.5"
92cm

39.5"
100cm

42.5"
108cm

45"
116cm

48.5"
124cm

Waist

28"
70cm

29.5"
74cm

32.5"
82cm

35.5"
90cm

38.5"
98cm

41.5"
106cm

WOMEN

XS

S

M

L

XL

Chest

32.5"
82cm

34"
86cm

37"
94cm

40"
102cm

43"
110cm

Waist

24"
60cm

25.5"
64cm

28.5"
72cm

31.5"
80cm

34.5"
88cm

KIDS

XS

S

M

L

XL

Chest

26"
66cm

28.5"
72cm

30.75"
78cm

33"
84cm

35.5"
90cm

Waist

23.5"
60cm

25"
64cm

26"
66.5cm

27"
69cm

28"
71.5cm

 

Oakley clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

XXL

XXXL

Chest

30-32"
76.2-81.28cm
34-36"
88.38-91.44cm
38-40"
96.52-101.6cm
42-44"
106.68-111.76cm
46-48"
116.84-121.92cm
50-52"
127-132.08cm

Waist

28"
71.12cm
30"
76.2cm
31"
78.74cm
32"
81.28cm
33"
83.82cm
34"
86.38cm
36"
91.44cm
38-40"
96.52-101.6cm

WOMEN

0

2

4

6 8

10

12

14

UK Size

4

6

8

10 12

14

16

18

Bust

31.5"
80.01cm

32.5"
82.55cm

33.5"
85.09cm

34.5"
87.63cm
35.5"
90.17cm

36.6"
92.71 cm

38"
96.52cm

39.5"
100.33cm

Waist 23"
58.42cm
24"
60.96cm
25"
63.5cm
26"
66.04cm
27"
68.58cm
28"
71.12cm
29.5"
74.93cm
31"
78.74cm
Hip 34"
86.36cm
35"
88.9cm
36"
91.44cm
37"
93.98cm
38"
96.52cm
39"
99.06cm
40.5"
102.87cm
42"
106.68cm

 

Orca triathlon clothing

MEN

S

M

L

XL

XXL

Chest

34-36.5"
86-93cm
36.5-39.5"
93-100cm
39.5-42"
100-107cm
42-45"
107-114cm